Rights of People Detained Under the Mental Health Act

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Rights of People Detained Under the Mental Health Act

In our society there are those of us that require treatment for something other than broken bones or disease. Mental health is one of those issues that few people are willing to face, if someone has a cast on their leg, you can see immediately what is wrong with them; with mental illness it is difficult to know what to say, or do. We are often shown pictures in TV dramas of sociopaths and the mentally ill, as if they are all to be lumped in the same category: dangerous.

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This is prejudice in one of its worst forms, born from a lack of understanding.

While the Mental Health Act and the Courts have not provided a definition, preferring instead to consider each person on a case-by-case basis, there is a general definition of ‘mental illness, arrested or incomplete development of mind, psychopathic disorder and any other disorder or disability of the mind’. This is very general and, since we still know so little about the workings of the human mind; maybe that is right.

The Mental Health Act

While the Act does not give a specific definition, it has given three distinct forms of mental disorder:

  • Severe mental impairment – which is incomplete or arrested mental development, usually with serious aggression.
  • Mental impairment – similar to severe mental impairment but with arrested intelligence and not as high a level of aggression.
  • Psychopathic disorder – which they term a ‘persistent disorder or disability of the mind with abnormal aggression or sociopathic tendencies

Now, I don’t know about you but they all sound fairly similar to me, however, I am not a Doctor so perhaps there are significant differences.

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Informal Admission into Hospital

If a person is sufficiently aware that they are suffering from some form of mental illness, then they can choose to be admitted into hospital for treatment, just as they would if they had pneumonia, for example. Once admitted, they retain all their basic rights for care and protection from harm. Their rights are not diminished or restricted just because they may or may not have a mental disorder.

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Admission Via the Court

A person can be forced to have mental health treatment if the court or another responsible body, such as social services, deem it necessary for their health and safety. This is known as ‘sectioning’ and is often treated as a last resort. This can be done for up to six months and would need to be renewed at the end of that period if further treatment is required.

An individual can also be admitted against their will for assessment, possibly following treatment, for a period of no longer than 28 days, under Section 2 of the Mental Health Act. If the treatment is unsuccessful or if the medical staff feel that further in-patient treatment is necessary then they cannot simply extend the stay; they must apply for the patient to be ‘sectioned’.

The Police have also been granted various powers to remove a person from their home or from a public place if there is a serious threat to life. They cannot admit someone to a Psychiatric Unit, however, they must deliver them to a hospital where the patient can be detained for up to six hours by the nurse or transferred to the requisite unit by a Doctor.

Patients Rights

During all of this it needs to be remembered that the patients themselves still have rights; they may, for the most part, be able to function in a lucid manner and understand what is happening to them. They are also still entitled to have their needs met in the form of food, housing and protection from abuse and harassment.

Were it not for the circumstance they find themselves in, then they would have every right to claim a breach of their human rights by the very fact that they have been detained, however the European Court of Human Rights, and our own Parliament, has stated that it is lawful to detain someone under these circumstances. In addition, the Mental Health Act goes to great lengths to ensure that patients are made aware of what is happening to them, the treatment they are to receive and that, if they wish, they can apply to the Mental Health Review Tribunal for an independent decision. You can read more about the type of medical treatment you receive and who consents for it here.

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Pete 15/07/2018 at 12:51 pm
After a protracted period of illness, work related stress and personal misfortune I found myself at an all time low this week. I was unaware that I was so low as I have fibromyalgia and have been in a flare up for about 8 months, it makes it hard to tell when something else is wrong.

On Wednesday morning I found myself in a dangerous situation and started to have a panic attack (I often have these) I called for help as I knew the panic attack would have catastrophic results if I couldn't calm myself, talking helps. Within a short time police arrived, I was helped out of the situation and led away, by this time I was in full panic and not functioning well. The police informed me that I was to be detained for my own safety. It helped calm me, just the word 'safety' was enough.

I was taken to Wotton Lawn in Gloucester for my safety and to be cared for as a vulnerable person. I vaguely remember someone telling me my rights and it was basically that I had none. I was to wait for evaluation by three doctors and a senior member of the unit staff. Whilst I sat waiting I desperately tried to put together the events that led to me wanting to end my life, it didn't make sense to me and it is unlike me to throw the towel in, I have come close to death several times in my life and I'm not yet ready to give up. The more I tried to make sense of it and couldn't, the more panic started to build again.

The panel of four assembled themselves in front of me and I felt suffocated, the questions came and I struggled to give coherent answers (very common with my fibromyalgia - worse in panic situation) - one of the doctors berated me because I was calm before the assessment started, this felt hostile and deepened my panic. The point to note here is that these four medical professionals were assessing my mental stability whilst I was having a panic attack. The decision was made to keep me for up to 48 hours for care and monitoring. I had no problem with this but once my panic had subsided I wanted to know about the process, what would happen, what would be done about my vehicle which was in an unsafe place. None of these answers were given, lots of platitudes such as "we know it must be confusing", "everything will be all right once we get you settled in" and so on. Whilst waiting to transfer me to the accommodation the manger, whilst on the phone in another room, deliberately raised her voice whilst saying "If we have to get hands on ....." I was astonished and immediately put on edge. Four male nurses soon appeared clearly with the intent of physically transferring me if I was not compliant. When all four came into the area I was sat in I said clearly "you are making me feel threatened, If anyone UNNECESSARILY touches me I will defend myself, THIS IS NOT A THREAT I have military training and I will instinctively use it in my defence, there is no need for this I am not going to run away, I just want you to tell me what's going on".
Cj 13/04/2018 at 12:54 am
My partner suffers mental health has been a hospital for it before tk bad last wk went to hes sister's house seen by crisis team i spoke to someone to find out the outcome they said he had not been admitted but hes sister is telling me hes in a secure unit getting help and im no longer hes next of kin as she has apparently changed it to her im really concerned need advice is there anything i can do
AboutHumanRights Editor 06/04/2018 at 12:29 pm
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Bang 05/04/2018 at 5:13 pm
My 13 year old daughter has been thinking about suicide a lot I checked her search history and saw she’s was looking at ways to die a painless death and the other day I saw some ibuprofen in her room so I think she might od. I’ve taken the ibuprofen away but I was wondering If she does what would happen? What would they do in hospital? I know she will refuse to go to a mental hospital but then what would happen?
AboutHumanRights Editor 04/04/2018 at 12:03 pm
The MIND organisation has good information on how to make an effective complaint about health and social care HERE
Juju 01/04/2018 at 6:51 pm
Hi. My son was sectioned under Section 3 last year. He has received no treatment from his hospital. No timetable or careplan has been drawn up. He was also attacked by a patient. This, I have only been informed of as it happened last year. He has not been able to sleep at night as this patient kicks his door and threatens him. I live in Somerset and he is in Norfolk. He is being treated so badly, I have had to call the police as I am worried for his safety. The staff don't care as he calls them names but he cannot help it. They are turning a blind eye to his distress. I have complained to their head office and the response was, the care team should be able to help. They are all biased against him. He was recently restrained and put in seclusion from 2 until 10 at night as he was distressed when I recently visited him. He is not a racist but as most of the care staff are black, they are ganging up on him and treating like this as he calls them names. They have called him a white pig.
I would like him to be transferred to another hospital asap as I am worried about his safety.
I would appreciate your reply. Please don't say speak to advocate or social worker there as they will not admit their guilt. They would rather blame my son who is extremely vulnerable.
Muddled 25/02/2018 at 11:52 am
I have treatment resistant depression with anxiety and anorexia nervosa diagnosed by a national tertiary service. They listed different medication options for my psychiatrist to try and recommended CBY with it. The CMHT insist that it is psychotherapy and not CBT, I have clarified this with the Professor who I saw and in his email he states CBT, so I have refused the offer of psychodynamic psychotherapy and am getting private CBY but since January have only had 4 sessions because of illness. I also have agoraphobia and we have been working on that and not the depression during the sessions.

I have had a crisis and tried to kill myself on a railway level crossing three weeks ago. Last week the psychiatrist phoned and offered me hospital admission to change my medication to the second option suggested by the Professor but I said no as I wanted to try the CBT for longer with the current meds. He then turned up the next day with my care coordinator and I still refused hospital admission. He said that he would apply to section me then, under section 2. I got a phone call saying that they would all be coming to my house at 1.00pm the next day to do the mental health act assessment. So I ran away so they couldn't do it.

I came back the next day after talking to the AMP who said that the team had decided not to carry on. I later phoned my care coordinator to find out when the consultant would next see me now, and when she would visit and she said that they were discharging me as I had refused to go into hospital to change the medication. I would go in in after the CBT has been tried alongside the current medication for 12 weeks if it doesn't work but they are not listening.

I don't understand how I could have been so unwell and at risk that they were trying to compulsory admit me, and then two days later I'm well enough to be discharged.

I am on some medication that is so much higher than the BNF dose that the psychiatrist had to get permission from the Trust pharmacist to prescribe it, even though it was recommended in the Professor's report.

Is there anything that I can do about this?
Lil' bit 20/02/2018 at 10:09 am
My 1st husband committed a crime when our child was 4. He was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenia while incarcerated. He was locked up until our child was 18. Can the child get back pay since no child support was ever received?
AboutHumanRights Editor 17/11/2017 at 10:56 am
We really can't advise you what to do in theses circumstances as we don't know either of your personally. Maybe someone else reading this will have had a similar experience and can share.
Boom 16/11/2017 at 3:56 am
I got with my partner in January of this year. He staryed off absolutely perfect in every way and i fell madly in love with him....After a couple of months into our relationship he would become loud and aggressive after a few drinks, his behaviour was irrational and he would do bizarre things for attention. When he hadn't been drinking he seemed a normal hard working guy, quiet in fact. When I questioned him about his strange behaviour when sober he would get very defensive and brush it off as just being drunk. Unfortunately over the next few months his behaviour got worse and worse, and on a few occasions when I asked him to leave my home he refused to go, locked me in, hid the keys smashed phone's up and on one occasion he bashed my hand against a wall whilst holding my throat to get my phone from me to stop me phoning the police...the police were called on a number of occasions by my neighbours and once by myself!...I eventually told him we could no longer be together as he was too unstable, I have 2 children and although he had never acted like this in front of them I was very aware that he might do so!...Everything came to a head in August when I told home he had to move out and get some kind of help!..It was very hearbreaking to see the effect this had on him because he truly is a kind, decent, ..I was interviewed and asked if I had cut my partners hand with the knife that I had used to cut him down, he also had cut to the back of his head where he had landed when I cut him down, they asked if I had done it with the knife?...I was scared to death!..I was then released under investigation...my partner couldn't remember anything he was in intensive care for 6 days but has made a full recovery....because of the seriousness of the accusations made against me social services became involved and I wasn't allowed to be on my own with my children until the investigation was resolved...my children's fathers were notified and my children were put on a child in need order, I had to sign an agreement to say 8 wouldn't have any contact with my ex partner again!....I have stuck to this plan as m6 children come first, they are my life!!!! However I have since been made aware that my ex partner was abused as a child which has led to this behaviour, he is now having psychiatric help in a mental health facility and has asked me through a mutual friend if I would consider a relationship with him if he got better....I want to know, is this even possible? Am I crazy myself even considering it? Trust me he would have to pass every test going to get near my children again!! If I could guarantee I would have the kind sweet loving guy back knowing 100% I would never see that destructive side of him again I would fight for him...After everything I've been through I should hate him but I know that he isnt really that awful man!
missb 14/10/2017 at 12:40 pm
i'm living with my partner for 7 months after we were apart for 24 years but now that his living with me i can see him changing his has really bad mental health problems he has hit me in the pass his not been taking his meds also i'm scared to tell him to go he has hit me but i think he needs to go to hospital i'm really scared of him please if anyone can help me
AboutHumanRights Editor 26/09/2017 at 2:04 pm
Unfortunately our site is UK based and we can only really comment on the UK system. It might be worth asking on a US based website.
ConCerned!!! 25/09/2017 at 3:15 am
My brother-in-law is 53 years old has
Schizophrenia and no income or insurance. His mother had to call mobile crisis and place him in a private mental hospital. He didn't like it. Reason for the removable from the home.... totally unsure but he is very large aggressive man that is very threatening toward his mother and step-father on a day to day bases. He fought back and attacked a few people and a police officer. They arrested him and took him from that mental hospital and placed him in a state lock down mental ward until the court hearing which he will face 3 assault charges. His mother is worried about what to do since he has no income or insurance. Any advice??? Very Concerned.
Lou 29/08/2017 at 5:39 pm
Currently being illegally detained at Peter Hodgkinson Centre in Lincoln UK. Being raped every night by patients and staff
EmJ 23/08/2017 at 8:30 pm
My partner has been detained under the mental health act section 4. The Doctor told us as I was there with him that he is going to hospital so they could attempt an MRI and get him diagnosed and treatment started. Instead the Doctor lied and told the police my partner locked him in a room and threatened him!!!! I was there!! This is completely untrue and now my partner is locked up and I can't see him! We were sitting outside having a cigarette with this Doctor when the police turned up!!! What can I do to help him!??
Mary 10/08/2017 at 2:52 am
You posted my article in 2015. I was illegal committed by a police officer and my now X. After attempted murder in 2016 I opened up my case. Documented my X paid off the handy man I hired. When Cleo left the house hidden damages and I was robbed. Just what I loved and not of value. The next day and for 5 days my dog and I became extremely I'll at night. My alarm company picked up carbon monoxide. Brought the firemen thank goodness. The gas line in the attic and water lines slightly open. Gas was coming down to the second floor.
Opened up my case. His lawyers Secretary sent me papers and bills I hadn't seen. June 4 per my lawyers request. Dennis is coming back to the house and taking what is mine. Joint so legal by the police. My lawyer refused to go to the magistrate. Domestic criminal trespassing law he says he doesn't have to. Tell the cops he should be arrested. So I gave my complaint to a cop of what was stolen. The cop left and called my X. He came back said I was crazy and more. Angry As I bent my arm to my chest and said what. Fist closed and he yelled felony felony but since he new my now x he wouldn't. I just found after I left him when I was sitting on my friends front porch 2 officers drove by. There report says disturbance. Another one says I called them. I didn't have my cell with me. That day I had called my lawyer about the officer yelling felony at me and that was it. Told him to get his act together. 2 days later Dennis's lawyer calls mine. He said give her a guardian. Within 2 hours Dennis is in court. I was delusional and persicutory against him. The cops name is in my IVC. I was crazy found under a tree. No mention of the two fictious police reports. But the one where I was sitting on my friends front porch they just put down disturbance. That might I was taken away. I vanished from every one for 19 days. I called my Lawyer. I'm just your divorce lawyer. In the nurses notes Dennis calls the unit and says he is my son and throws in suicide. 4days later I got to call my lawyer. Oh he would take care of it. A letter to the police and many higher up government employees cutting down the chief how I was mistreated. He didn't tell the police where I was. Next he calls the RN. I'm her divorce lawyer and he didn't know why I was there. Then he was working on giving me a power of attorney. My lawyer every one thought he was for me. He even talked to the magistrate and lied or moved around of words. Oh how caring he was. Day 17 I finally got an advocate. She said she would get me out ASAP. I just found out there was a court date the next day. My lawyer that day called the staff and told them he had a guardian and power of attorney. I was fine and discharged. With days the sheriff comes to my house. Dennis is taking me to court for a guardian. Now found my lawyer was taking me to court. In case of insanity to give me a guardian. Told it was Dennis who filed. Just prior to court he can't go and sent another lawyer. Met
AboutHumanRights Editor 25/07/2017 at 12:41 pm
We can only really comment on UK matters unfortunately, sorry.
Mad mom 19/07/2017 at 5:21 am
Can a detective get information about my child from a mental hospital? Her words were go around the HIPAA POLICY. CAN SHE DO THAT??
ladyleo 18/07/2017 at 4:55 pm
My Daughter has BDP and has been in hospital for 3 yrs under section 3 of the mental health act and was retrained by members of staff in hosptail and punch a memeber of staff and turned on the sprinkers and flooded the ward, can you be arrest for Assult and crimal damage? as the police have been to interview her on her own.....
Vata 11/07/2017 at 1:37 pm
I was admitted into Hospital due to my GP overdosing me with antibiotics causing liver injury and a rash with an itch that was pure mental torture! My ALT was at 600. While in hospital I couldn't take anything for itch orally because of liver, I asked the nurse for calamine lotion and I was told they didnt stock it so I couldnt get the relief I desperately needed! I was not given any relief itch was all over my body, honestly it was mental torture. I was explaining to the nurse that I needed relief as the itch was mental torture and that I would rather die than deal with itch! Figure of speech! I was sectioned and when I tried to leave to get me the calamine lotion the relief I desperately needed the hospital had their thugs drag me back like an animal arms twisted so far up my back it felt like it was going to break. I was sectioned and assaulted by hospital staff because I needed relief! The way patients are sectioned has to reviewed doctors should not be allowed to take peoples rights away just because of calamine lotion. I now fear going back to the only hospital in my city in fear this could happen to me again. I am still suffering from liver injury but am having major anxieties about returning to the hospital cant get the help I desperately need because liver specialist and all other specialists are seen at the hospital.
Goldie 21/06/2017 at 12:16 am
Nephew locked up involuntarily at mental hospital. They won't let any family member talk to him or give any news about how long he will be there and won't take our phone numbers down. What can we do?
Houdini 01/06/2017 at 4:42 pm
My brother was recently committed involuntarily and the hospital refuses to let anyone stalk to him, they say I have to have his patient ID number but won't tell what it is. They said he would have to call me but he doesn't know my number. What can I do or how do I obtain his IDd number?
Girl123 22/05/2017 at 9:12 pm
My partner had a mental health break down an contacted the doctors in which they gave him a emergency appointment when he went he turned up an spoke to them they told him there was nothing they could do.. So he smashed up the doctors room an now the police are after him.. What grounds does he have and what could happen?
AboutHumanRights Editor 03/05/2017 at 2:08 pm
Speak to a professional legal adviser to find out more about taking court action.
young 03/05/2017 at 3:28 am
I son is 15 and is in a long term mental health facility and was punched in the face by staff member it was caught on tape his lip is busted and the ceo of the company is call to apologize what kind of case is this and what do I do next I thought my child was safe. this was a mental and treatment set back for him i feel.
A 20/04/2017 at 10:01 pm
Char, your community should have low cost or no cost legal aid. They might be able to find out if the hospital had security cameras in the hallways, and whether it can provide evidence.
Natty 16/04/2017 at 11:52 am
Commit the crime do the time , go home clean cut , don't become a victim to the legal drug pushing companies that pay taxes to let mental health units abuse your rights and take away any last part of dignity you have even when crying for help as they will never leave you alone as you become a great customer for there drugs and services that waste millions on over paid resources be strong and cope best as you can without signing away your future hell to strangers in sheepskin clothing you will be abused and abused only at times to be frustrated and angry having all your actions used against you to the extreme and exaggerated so you are risk danger to the public? Really when all you did was cry for help be careful as this mockery of rights have to changed and abusers of patients must be imprisioned themselves and then they will know how they will want to be treated and feel what is and has beefing going on must stop.
Marv 16/04/2017 at 11:39 am
Mental health act is totally in the dark ages , rights taken away no explains ions ever given you when you show your integrity , no kind of amendments made on notes or displinary on wrong treament made by care teams no sacking or even apologies when proof shown about the persons care totally illegal on the governments behalf when will this mental health act become open to question open to amendments for destroying innocent parties kept against there given write when they have shown no risk on there behalf to others too many false imprisioned by this money stealing scheme made to benefit proffessionals that would never have a job should there not be such an act ,total abuse of human rights . As for the recutied nurses they seem to be all from over sea and have no common knowledge to communicate well with the British generation today nurses are supposed to be of multi cultural society when you visit hospitals you tend to find a social club of majority the same people with ill manners towards British culture hence allows them to do as they please with citizens at there mercy back by board room criminals
Baz 16/04/2017 at 10:02 am
Should have the possibility to try and help any friend or family member when their life is in crisis and they cannot cope with their reality do so , whatever it take even when they have been arrested for a minor crime , do not let social services take them away a start there treament as it may work a first with medication to sedate them , only eventually most humans return to there senses only its to late social services will forcefully start to medicate people to the extent that person never has a right to conduct what's right for themselves they become vegtables and very obvious to others that there is a person on medication for mental reasons and are outcasts of there own lives very few need the treatment given to the extent taken by pen pushing consultants whom act as if the text books have higher intelligence than the person feeling the traumas or there family whom know the person , there life is treated as a money pit for uncesserlry medication and a system of over spent resources used to create stigma for mental Health they Guinea pigs , consultants take commission on drugs that they are told to use and promote there treated as rejects and not wanted in society and life expectancey shortens due to there own neglect as they can not lift up there own moral and duties to life as treatment controls there energy leaves and leaves them dependent on others , to cut it short now even the nurses think they have a right to do as they please with treament towards human life when given any powers who are these people abusing powers of when detaining patients whom never are heard when voicing the truth or become scared of there keepers , whom treat them like animals in the zoo.
Rosie 08/04/2017 at 9:15 am
I have had the healthcare profession and others i trusted to give me the best care and they have neglected my needs and human rights and I have severe abdoominal pains and other issues swperate but all related. Currently i have been refused medical treatments for my physical and main issues and i am currently detained under a section 2. I was given a list of solicitors on their choice but the numbers accessible were limited and i have not got the means to vet many lawyers / solicitors prior as i am trying to cope with this harassment and illegal sectioning under false pretences. Also, there is an old lady with a zimmaframe whose case i would look into too as she reminds me of and old man i used to know and i think there is medical / clinical negligence on her too and i think a full medical history as well as scans and therapy as well as treatments if needed might help her as they would like me to end up the same way and are infringing my rights too.
Ntoks 02/03/2017 at 5:57 pm
My son was knocked by a car ,he sustain complecated heard injury, The court through the case because the evidence was not enough to arrest the driver but they did not collect the evidence. The driver is free.they dont care about my child
Sharon 16/02/2017 at 1:40 pm
My son ls ln a psychiatric hospital under section 3 of the mha. l would like an advocate to advise me as l think his human rights are being abused
SD 09/02/2017 at 4:50 pm
My 22 y/o son was feeling down and wanted to speak to someone about possibly being depressed. My ex-wife took him to kaiser for 2 weeks, he eventually spoke to a physiatrist who sent him to aurora charter oak hospital all the way in Covina. He has been there three days and they won't let him leave because they say he is an imminent threat to himself. He checked in voluntarily, but they refuse to allow him to leave. My son was just feeling down now he is losing his mind being trapped in there. How can I get him released asap? is there an attorney that can help me? I have heard this same horror story by several families with loved in there. Has anyone had a similar experience with this same hospital?
char 03/02/2017 at 11:45 am
my 17 year old had a stroke almost 3 years ago. He has been suffering from depression ever since. 2 weeks ago he started hearing voices in his head telling him to do dangerous things. The final straw was when he asked for 20 dollars to light himself on fire so he could stop all the bad things from happening saying he was responsible for all the bad stuff in the world. I took him to ER while there the doctor can in to assess him for not even five min. She said he was stable and gave no meds After that no one came into the room at all. We waited 4 hours. He grew impatient and tried to leave. He was going down the hall and the nurse on a different unit pinned my son up to the wall. My son pushed his way thru him. The next thing I knew big men police and nursing staff had him on the floor 6 to 8 men. The nurse that he pushed himself away from is saying that he hit him. Now they are pressing charges and my son felt like they were attacking him and so did I. He has since been admitted to the phyic ward for his safety. What can I do. How do I help my son if I do not have ab attorney and I want a better one that a deffence attorney. Also I feel like I can file against the hospital. Any advice out there. Am I on the right track. After all they attacked him first. And they also caused my son to had bruises and scabs all over his body. I am a very mad mother right now please help.
Liz t 01/02/2017 at 8:11 pm
I am in total despare, my son has just called me from shore ward in park royal. He was sectioned under the mental act and had just called me in utter fear from the staff he was threatened by this huge member of staff who told my son I know where you live and what is important to you. I could hear them in the back ground saying how they bet he hasn't told his mum about what he said etc.I DON'T CARE WHAT HE SAID they have a duty of care and my son is mentally ill. I don't know what to do I have no way of contacting authorities until the morning and can't calm my son down I don't know what to do in desperate for advice
Tilowa 27/11/2016 at 3:28 pm
My sons in BCF. I believe he has had abreakdown. The guards do not I meen do not protect them. They get abused beat and drugs come in from the guards. i contacted the Warden mayer governer lawyer no results. If somethings is not did are love one will forever mentally damaged. Because there is no rehabilitation in that prison in most in Alabama.
AboutHumanRights Editor 22/11/2016 at 2:04 pm
There's not much you can do as a lay person/relative. Have you tried the Prisoner's Families and Friends Service?
Bevey 22/11/2016 at 7:35 am
Hello my nephew is in prison for assault
He has lots of issues with anger and was diagnose with depression we are trying to get him out of prison. He is serving two years. And is not getting the help he needs there .. how can we get him out of prison. Into a program
Sue 16/11/2016 at 9:17 am
My son is 21who as asperg he his in prison on remand since May he as seen 2 psychologist and both have said he needs to be in hospital Because of his metal health and for judge to find out was it that that made Tom do what he did because it was out of character for him to of done what he did because of his asperg he has been tormented in prison it's killing me he as now been given a hospital order and he will be going there in the next 28 days to be assessed for 12 weeks then court again for the out come and to be sentenced I'm praying he won't go back to prison it's not fare some one should do something to stop asperg people going to prison it's un human for them to put them threw torture tormented plus no one to look after them the system is all wrong
Bambi 13/11/2016 at 9:03 pm
My son was diagnosed with aspergers and OCD at the age of 30 after he had committed a federal crime. I always thought he was shy but was not aware of a underlying cause. I hired an attorney for $30,000.00 and told my son to trust him. In the end the attorney was sadly lacking in showing the judge my son's disability and my son was subsequently sentenced to 5 years in Federal Prison. His wife who is also mentally disabled and their son live with me. My grandson has been diagnosed with Severe Autism, is non verbal, and severely developmentally delayed. He is four and a half, operating at a 2 year old level. He doesn't understand why his father can't be here and has a lot of extreme behaviors as a result. I'm getting my grandson the help he needs. But my Son is still suffering with the outcome of being locked up. I'm writing this in hope that someone might see this post and be able to help me get my son back home. Thank you for providing a place for me to share.
none 03/11/2016 at 10:09 am
In the past a hate crime was started on me,by corrupt officials,they have used mental health as away of controling me,and my granson and others have seen what is actualy been contrived against me,they actualy use their authority to set up the situation so as to look and sound bizzar, and its very serrious, the evidence iv had and some iv managed to protect from them,and they have left evidence in this house,which as a logical. Person,and knowing that what they are doing to us by damaging everything in this house with damage to all furnishings,ie.brand new or even things that stayed undamaged many years,just coincedently damage themselves do they? N. O. Inside and outside the house white splashes of fluid dont just do it to themselves do they? Like my windows inside and out all my downstairs walls,andd ceilings dont splatter themselves, with dirty marks,water is not supposed to descale kettles, and the more we drink of it,the more dehydrated we get,and lots of bad stomach pains,and give one the runs either do they? And much much more,chemical destuction of gardens just coincedently, when the authorities started this very dangerous hate crime,photographic evidence,even though they got to alot of it as on wi fi they even stole evidence,untill i phound away to secure some. Any way we including our dog are constantly shareing the same simptoms, there oh so much more..... any. way im serriously cocerned for my life,over and over they just kept coming and sectioning me for nothing but reporting whats happening for all to come see,and some have seen,but ignore even though accurate as the set up and power they have over your life is horrific,literaly you
lose all human rights and great evil abuse,i know im not the only one with similar storys,all i desperately want is an ucorupt team of people to help me,and my 24 year old granson.inow fear their conclusion is to and i know this sounds similarbut who better to use as a favour from one type of college to another to get away with the worst corrupt crimes but those that devised this hate crime against us,but them and as iv said everything that can and has been seen and done to us i have to tell them,when forced to with threats,and lies they get away with,abuseing the mental health act against you it seems that you cant escape them,im dessparate now as im 63 years old and quite some time ago they intemated that this age was not too young to die,now i fear their finel abuse and finnish is aproaching,suddenly i get a letter from them asking me to attend an appointment. Here in colchester,for a mental and phisical check up,i fear they will yet again section me and use their forced drugs,to induce heart attack or stroke, or similar ,i know i wont get out alive,hate crime completed. Im perfectly logic,as its so blatently obvious that these and many more things that have only happend sonce hate crime started and blatently cant just happen,they are doing it and we are reacting to it,which makes me loo
Devansh 30/10/2016 at 4:24 pm
My brother is suffering from bipolar disorder, he has been given treatment since past 7-8 years. But he has not shown much improvement, he creates violence in the house, he beats my parents and torture them, what to do now.? ?? Can we admit him somewhere permanently. ???
Chels 10/10/2016 at 9:41 am
Service users and there families should be informed of any changes to the care plans.

It is KEY that the family work with mental health professionals. It is the families right, if it's in the patients best interest.

I suggest anybody who is concerned for the service user family and friends ...

1. Put it in writing /print a copy for your records.
2. Covertly record telephone calls ,
If needs be record on premises. You the concerned persons is building up a case.

Note you have concerns of a professionals abusing there power. RECORD, LOG .

3. After gathering evidence you seek the person in charge. That's the person above your professional dealing with the service user.

Report a professional causing anxiety to the family, simply will not listen, will or is not involving families of care plans and treatment changes that may result in relapse or further pro- longed avoidable issues.

4. Remind the hospital or whom is dealing with the service user about Emphaty. Vital if you don't posses the basic human emotion they should not be working with vunrable individuals.

5. approaching an INDEPENDENT to assess needs, concerns.

6. Hospital assessors bring it to there attention., likely inspection will take place on performance, talking to the patients and seeing what things are really like.


7. Work with the profesionals who clearly have the service users best interest at heart, who clearly does like there job and is not corrupt. You will find many who indeed are willing to help.


Good luck!
Sami 21/09/2016 at 5:51 pm
I am detained under mental health act and have been for 6 months do is continuing detention but wants to send me to specialist unit in England I am refusing to go can I be physically forced to go
LosingThePlot 21/09/2016 at 6:24 am
Since the last 11 months, my sister has been to 7 different hospitals, and has been grotesquely been abused, under sections 2 and 3 MHA - one psychiatrist told me - I'm the boss at this hospital, and I can give any medication to your sister, the Dr restarted a drug that caused a acute stroke, my sister's condition has slumped again.

The amount of medication they have been giving her, in the last 11 months, has almost killed her - by drugs she never needed, or has been overdosed. I thought under section, they have to give drugs the benefit the patients - but they are using my sister as a human ginipig - I REALLY FEAR FOR HER LIFE - and need urgent help - they feed her through an NG tube cause her new medication are mimicking stroke like conditions - drooling, can't swallow, etc..

Its heart wrenching - the hospital are not hydrating her. Is very bad.
cosmic 20/09/2016 at 7:27 pm
mum was detained under section 2 for 33 days, therefore, exceeded the 28 day rule. should she have had another assessment before being transferred to a nursing home, she is now also exceeding her 4 weeks short term placement.

what are her rights?
Zba22 30/08/2016 at 5:20 pm
Hi, my friend is in a mental hospital I just spoke to someone to say that I can have her here to stay and I would help her with her meds and that do you think that's helped or made things worse
AboutHumanRights Editor 24/08/2016 at 1:00 pm
You should be allowed to see him if he wants you to. You can try the: Mind Helpline or the Young Minds helpline
Ellie 21/08/2016 at 11:27 pm
My son is sectioned...and has been since he was 19...sadly I asked for hospital order to try to get him appropriate help with his aspergers after a conviction....which he has ever received.
Tonight hospital rang us and said he had attempted suicide. We spoke about o him on the phone and he asked to see us. We asked staff if we could see him as he claims to have injuries from restraint. We requested this from mid evening and they have refused. Is this a breach of his human rights to see family
He was previously abused in another hospital and I believe we are justifiably concernedPAT
Welshie 28/07/2016 at 9:15 pm
I have been arrested and falsely accused in Scotland ever since the police and psychiatrist primarily the police constructed a mentaly ill narative on me because they never had no hard criminal charge against me and because they disagree with my past republican political beliefs. Now all it takes is for those same types of people to make up a slander or abnormal allegation against me and I am detained and drugged because they have managed to get a bipolar diagnosis on me which I have always contested. None of the allegations are ever coury worthy bit always the psychiatrists belive them and detain me for months tegardless of me refuting these allegations. The more they do it the longer my record gets and I just cannot seem to beat the police and psychiatridts. It is always the same type of people who.make the allegations against me, I am a practicing Roman Catholic and the police and the accusers hate me becausr I am an IRA sympathiser
Marcuz 25/06/2016 at 9:59 am
I have to agree ever since i have bin under the mental health act ive nin finding things a bit strange i dont get corciit judges, and also thungs have been changing recently i really dont understand. However i i needed to adress this as if i speak about it they ignore as if nothings going on. Are they making me hillusinate or are they being real? I have also noticed time has been traveling too fast for me...
bos 19/06/2016 at 9:32 pm
to whom it my consern i am writiting this letter to tell you about my son boss who is under the health when he was 14 he had a fetsh abont steal cars but not for gain or prophet he just liked driving cars he quite often took the cars back from where he stole them from he has now been detained by the mental health for the past 17 years in those 17 years my son boss has been in and out of different mental health hospital i wood be greatfull for any help or advive
Mel 16/06/2016 at 10:49 pm
My son as bin discharged from hospital after a siciic episode on meds but as will not alow him bk in family home as he as younger sibling 13/2/1/ now they what me do a agreement that ss can do police check unexpected day night to make shore my son how as siciic is not in my home with younger sibling what can I do as my son what come home and kids what him home to plz help
syl 07/06/2016 at 5:39 pm
Needto be,in care and supported houseing I hav a mental illness and physicaly ill cannot look after myself nomore men
RealNameDarrenLawson 05/06/2016 at 10:43 am
In reality, if the police can have a person held for six hours prior to being assessed by a health worker and then held for twenty eight days under the mental health act which is used to punish rather than to assess or to treat people would this not amount to an additional tariff being placed upon a person's liberty simply because anomalous behaviour was detected by the police for example.
Pat 25/05/2016 at 5:27 pm
My son has been though a lot n his young life n he's has been diagnosed with a variety of mental disorders such as ADD,ODD, schizophrenia n the list goes on,it's all started when he was around three or four years of age I mean it's wasn't severe just he was the same way I was very hyper I mean couldn't sit still but because of I n his mother mental illness they assume he was severe they even put him on meds around the same age I thought n my opinion that was too young for psychotic meds so at around five they urges us I mean his mother and I to admit him to a behavior hospital n as always I was against it but they made it interesting I gave n ,every since then it was a down hill sparrow so I n his mother separated when he was around 8 on top of that he started lying a lot n his mother said she couldn't handle him so I stood up didn't realize all the abuse he allege that had happened to him n I enrolled him n school he was getting better until his mother thought that his income wasn't significant to our son so one week he went to visit her she had convinced him that I was the bad one n she was the good one n he was admitted to the behavior hospital again only this time child protection got involved n remove him out of her house hold I try to step in n lies had me n a situation that I almost gotten into trouble but I prayed n they investigated n found no harm done but everyone was still skeptical about me so he stay n dhs custody off n on never n my care always n his mother care n they put him n hospital after hospital home after home so his mind frame was institutionalized state that he couldn't n wouldn't trust anyone n on top of that everyone defamation of my character so who would believe me I have mental illness also but overall he was place n my custody finally now this the tricky part while he was confined he lost his sister n which my daughter she was nine no one help him with her lost not even at school no where so it's was a battle for me to keep him free he was running was frequently but I help him n he stop for a minute my fiance had to adjust because he was doing things differently to what she was use to I mean cussing,touching himself,n a hold lot more n he had everyone thinking that I was the bad one as normal but a father love n he got to one of his I called episode n try to run off n was hit by a car severely n they said he was severely brain damaged but I prayed n he's not the way they said meaning doctors that he wasn't going to breath on his on or have movement .Now he's responding not verbally but with hand jesters ,head movement n he knows what going on but my QUESTION I'd why they still trying to send him somewhere to a some what like a retirement home n I know we be n NY fiance can take care of him he's not on no ventilate he's breathing on his on just he have a feeding tube so why they trying to force me to sign papers n I have full custody court order I'm sorry for this long text but it's the truth
AboutHumanRights Editor 18/05/2016 at 2:39 pm
Try contacting the Offenders' Families Helpline on 0808 808 2003.
Zipporah 16/05/2016 at 6:45 pm
My brother has lost insight and has become delusional. He is 27 years old, his behaviour started to change 2/3 weeks back and culminated in him claiming he owns a bank, has a secret identity and is wealthier than anyone. He spent hours standing at the bank and then went to a car dealership saying that they know him and they're going to give him an audi. The police have him in custody but are refusing to give us any information about him, we want to know if he has been seen by a health care professional and is getting the help he deserves. The police are not letting us the family know anything, we are incredibly worried, he is not in control of himself and is not in the mind to make decisions, how can his family not know what has happened to him in the British system?
AboutHumanRights Editor 16/05/2016 at 2:26 pm
You could try making a complaint via the NHS complains procedure
Yolo 13/05/2016 at 6:52 pm
My son went to the ER wanting help with his anxiety it has gotten so bad that he's having a hard time breathing with counselors help for the past few years. He is 19 years old when and to ask for help signed 3-day stay. He's an Westwood Lodge he's getting no help she's staying in the hallway and they were verbally abusive to him when he tells him how he's feeling they tell him stop being dramatic. Now he feels more anxiety and suicidal and feels he has no hope. Is there someone we can get a hold of for this Behavior towards the people that work there is a way I can get him out and transferred somewhere else? It's hard enough to finally ask her help willingly to go into a mental hospital and then to be verbally abused and stuck in a hallway isn't right.
mom 11/05/2016 at 7:00 am
I have a friend who was released from the hospital. and due to bring in a diabetic coma she is not completely right in her mind, and her son has handcuffed her to a hospital bed at home, is this legal and what can be fine about it??
AboutHumanRights Editor 09/05/2016 at 10:55 am
We can't say as we don't have all the details. But it might be worth talking to your GP/Son's consultant to establish their position on his stability while on medication. They may be able to provide information for the social worker to reassure them.
Mel 06/05/2016 at 7:44 am
My son is just turned 18 years old and he hit my 13 year old he was saying he heard voices tell him hit my 13 year old son and he was asking for help, s worker second him on secon 2 mental Heath act , now doctors say it's sicotic but Socil worker not let him bk in my home where my kids are is this Wright , as he on medication now for it
AboutHumanRights Editor 21/04/2016 at 11:32 am
Make a complaint to the NHS trust responsible if you have concerns.
Elmynat 19/04/2016 at 10:05 pm
If I was taken to hospital by ambulance for attempted suicide & gave all my details to the ambulance staff when I arrived at majors should they then ask for all my details again & say I have a duplicate NHS number, give me 1 set of obs and take my bloods give me no results back I was there 11 and a half hours then put me in a mental health room. Keep giving me tea all different people where coming in with pen pads not writing anything I was saying that my pulse was racing could I get in a bed I was told no I was physically fit I was treated like a dog followed by a security man and they kept making me cups of tea, I told them I wanted to be sectioned but nobody took any notice I was sent home with diazepam tablets I called the hospital the next day to be told it was my 1st visit when that hospital I have been going all my life
Mel43 07/04/2016 at 6:38 pm
Can my partner be moved from a neuro rehab unit to a hospital miles away if he is improving.
They say it's a 'step down' unit but upon investigation it is a hospital with wards. I believe this will hinder his recovery, not improve it.
Also no one from the family were asked about what they wanted, we object to him being moved so far away.
He is on a section 3 which is due to expire
Jon 29/03/2016 at 11:53 pm
Can a detained patient be denied a cigarette while informal patients can go out and smoke are the detained patients rites being broken.
Thanks for your help on this
Donna 22/03/2016 at 3:20 pm
I live in rockwall county texas my son was arrested dec 18 for aggravated assualt with a deadly weapon at our home my nephew was living across the driveway and my son didnt want me to go anywhere so he stabbed my tire so they called police my son has metal issues we just got him on disability and was trying to get him on the right meds but my nephew wrote statement on him that wasnt completely true he said that they would get him the help he needed hes been in trouble before for stabbing but it was a no bill due to the castle law people come in our house we didnt no them and they was beating up his little brother they arrested him he was in 90 days in solitary. So they are coming hard at him my nephew went and signed an affivadavid of nonprosecution and he came and told me that they were gonna go after on this case because he didnt get charged for that first case so he been locked in solitary over 90 days after a month in there they finally gave him mental evaluaition and found him incompitant they want to sent him to max security mental prison they wont let us bond him out to get him on medicine he looks real bad my son said the guards were making fun of him his eye was blood red like he had a busted blood vien he quit talking how i get him help if was to lock him up in a closet and treat him mean they would arrest me and im sure he has gotten mean now cuz hes not in his right mind
Michelle 15/03/2016 at 1:09 pm
Hi there,im in urgent need of advice my 15yr old who is autistic and adhd has been extremly violent last 18months he becoming worse everyday last few weeks hes gotten worse being arrested for damage to me and my home .the police are out getting him now i informed them he has serious mental health issues and is now a danger to himself and others.and needs inpatient treatment they told me they cantt do anything bout it is this right
Annettex 25/02/2016 at 8:58 pm
Laura I feel for you I really do - When did this happen to you and who took the pictures of your marks on your body and can we see the picures? Do you have an email addy so I can mail you some info?? Respect as always Annettex
Keeks 20/02/2016 at 12:21 am
My fiance is in a rehab and he has real bad anxiety the mediation that he is given isn't working for him and he wants me to get ahold of a lawyer and ask if there's anything he can do to get the right meds that will work for him
ally 30/01/2016 at 12:57 pm
Can your bedroom be searched indiscriminately and without just reason on a picu simply because it's a picu
Lost 24/12/2015 at 12:48 pm
Hello everyone
Can CPS take your child if you getting the child help.
herby 17/12/2015 at 5:43 pm
My friend has recently gone for advise to help her overcome some anxiety after being stalked by a possible sociopath. She made a police statement and spoke to mental health doctors. Since doing this, she has had herself declared as psychotic and been forced to take medicines that will eventually destroy who she is and stop her from 'talking', as it seems. The 'sociopath' in question has been in contact with young girls such as my friend in the past that have gone on to have drug overdoses/ 'commit suicide'. My friend was top of her class in one of the best universities in Britain, she was a smart girl and in absolutely no way psychotic, however, she was declared psychotic all most instantly (it says its a last resort) and she was refused any chance of a re-trial. This will ruin who she is and her life all while she was doing what was right, there seems absolutely no way to help her as the govt has her classed as 'psychotic', all though anyone that knows her knows that is ridiculous.
AboutHumanRights Editor 17/11/2015 at 11:25 am
If you feel you have been mistreated while in the custody of HM Police you can make a complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission
Ned 15/11/2015 at 6:58 am
I have photographic evidence of police brutality on myself whilst I was being transported from a police Stn in Scarborough after being examined by a police doctor n escorted to North Tees, psychiatric services ward 11. I was v upset as the police transported me but left my small child in the police Stn instead of transporting both of us together. My anxiety was further topped as the escorting female officer didn't give me time to reassure my child his grandmother n Uncle were coming to look after him. My injuries were disgusting...sheer brutality on the police's part n I felt totally helpless n abused by all involved...violation of power n physical harm on me but no-one was held accountable.
loopy laura 02/11/2015 at 7:22 pm
I live in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire and I am a bipolar 1 sufferer.

Back in December 2010 I had a manic psychotic episode and my parents called for an ambulance and the police accompanied them.
My parents informed both the police and the paramedics of my illness and that I was experiencing a manic episode and gave my belongings to them which also included my current medication at that time.

When put in the ambulance I was seated and quite happy to sit and as music was playing I was singing which was helping me to stay calm. Then the music was turned off for no apparent reason and I started to get frightened and I told the paramedic that I needed the toilet and she told me that I should just wet myself; I believe as I was giving her dirty looks and as part of my illness I obviously couldn't help this. She then preceded to exit the ambulance and left me with one policeman who was in the ambulance with me also and he handcuffed me really tightly and pushed me onto the bed, strapped me in and then proceeded to punch me in the face. Then the paramedic got back in the ambulance and we continued our journey to the hospital.

At the hospital the 2 policemen took me into the A and E Department and I was put in a cubicle with my hands still in handcuffs and whilst waiting they were abusive towards me verbally and by this time they had removed their number stripes and informed me that they were now off duty. Then one of them said he was going out for a cigarette and left me with the other one and he decided to punch me several times in the stomach and kick me as well.

Then as no one was available to see me at the hospital they then dragged me down the corridor of the hospital and threw me, literally, into the van and took me to the police station, where I was put in a cell till I could be accessed.

I then after I don't know how many hours was taken to the Edith Cavell Centre in Peterborough.

I still to this day remember one of the policeman's number which was 773.

I can't tell you how scared and frightened I was and I think its disgusting that police get away with this sort of thing.

I pray still that I never have another episode that involves having the police involved I did actually ring the police station whilst I was still under a section 2 and spoke to the main person to make a complaint but as you would be fully aware 2 policemen against me was a no win situation.
Connie 30/10/2015 at 11:32 am
I want to know what can I do? My son 24 yrs .suffers from mental illness.My son got in trouble with the law about 4 months ago I let the court know that my son need help.I was hoping that they would send him to mental court .he didn't get approve so they released him with in days he starts being bizard ,talking to him self,not making sense .He was out for three months he has got into trouble with law again.
Sasank 28/10/2015 at 4:56 pm
He got mental so much, we wnt to get out of from home
Annoyed 09/10/2015 at 8:33 pm
My 15 year old daughter is in a pyciatric intensive care unit yesterday she reported that a member of agency staff had scratched her arm on purpose this was brushed aside, today this same member of staff had assaulted my daughter and tried to strangle her the police have been informed and witnesses have been questioned the person has been suspended what are my daughters rights and how can I make sure that this man is sacked and prosicuted
AboutHumanRights Editor 07/10/2015 at 10:35 am
Did they police tell you that you were being detained under the mental health act? Under the act the Police have power to remove you from your home/public place but they must deliver you to a hospital where you can be detained for up to six hours by a nurse or transferred to the requisite unit by a Doctor. During this time you are entitled to have your needs met in the form of food, housing and protection from abuse and harassment. If you want to raise a complaint, do so via the IPCC.
frustrated 06/10/2015 at 1:18 pm
I was taken in handcuffs from my home for being upset anxious and yes I had been drinking BUT I had not done anything to exhibit a threat to anybody least of all myself I just wanted my bed. But I was cuffed and thrown in the back of a cop car. Despite my being compliant they refused to remove my cuffs even to go to the bathroom. I was told I was not allowed to make a phone call or have a drink of water, I was told under the mental health act I had no rights? How on earth is this possible? I sat shamed quiet thirsty and scared in cuffs until the Dr agreed I WAS FINE. And told the police I could easily be let go to my home. So again I ask how is it under the mental health act I had no rights to water or a phone call?
AboutHumanRights Editor 06/10/2015 at 11:18 am
Before anyone can be "sectioned" they will be assessed by a team of medical/health professionals, so the mother would not have the power to "section" him.
bell 05/10/2015 at 11:48 am
My Boyfriend of 3 years has OCD - it handles it very well and is still able to function in day to day life, he is now working again and his lif eis back on track. He has his good days and bad day, but don't we all? His Mother keeps threatening to get him sectioned which is completely unneccessary! He doesn't want to lose his job. As i am not legally a family member would i be able to stop him being sectioned?
AboutHumanRights Editor 24/09/2015 at 9:46 am
It sounds like he might actually have a mental health problem. You should ask your parents to take him to his GP so he can be referred for appropriate treatment
AboutHumanRights Editor 23/09/2015 at 2:17 pm
If you want to view the health records of a deceased person, under the Access to Health Records Act (1990) you should apply in writing to the relevant institution (his GP should be able to tell you which one). Generally (under the terms of the Access to Health Records Act 1990), you will only be able to access the deceased’s health records if you are either: a personal representative, an executor, or someone who has a claim resulting from the death (this could be a relative or another person).
Lois 22/09/2015 at 10:02 pm
My son in law committed my daughter to a mental health facility and won't tell us where. I'm afraid f her safety
Bling 22/09/2015 at 6:53 am
My stepbrother has been showing weird traits for a long time. It was bareable before but now it is out of control. He starts talking to people who arent there. Says things are being stolen from him when hes home alone. And that there are people under the house trying to get him. He has long and deep conversations with himself and it may get disturbing. He sometimes often yells words that dont make sense. Today for instence he started to say that there trying to get him those (homosexuals). Im worried about my health being around him. I am a 16 year old , and i feel that he is starting to get aggresive. He yells at his mom and talks to "the other person" about it. He has done drugs and i presume he still does. But even sober he still acts this way. Please help me as soon as possible.
anon 21/09/2015 at 5:50 pm
My ex partner was diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic when we were together, he spent 3 weeks in a mental hospital under assessments and was then releases under my care, we had 2 children together and later split up and he later remarried and divorced, my children are both now in their late teens and have been asking for more information so I was wondering if I would be able to get copies of his psychiatric reports for the children as their father died over 3 years ago. And if I can request the reports where can I request them from. Thanks
AboutHumanRights Editor 15/09/2015 at 11:07 am
Yes of course any police interview will allow him to give his side of the story and in a court, both sides of the case together with any evidence, will be given consideration.
Mars 14/09/2015 at 12:52 pm
Hi, my boyfriend was reported by his daughter to the police and got arrested for being an aggressive person. We have been together for 3 years and never seen him being aggressive to me or to any other person even when we fight. Does he has the right to fight for his rights? Please I need your help.
AboutHumanRights Editor 08/09/2015 at 9:37 am
It may be worth seeking information from a financial adviser but under normal rules of inheritance - where there is no Will... the husband/wife keeps all the assets (including property) up to £250,000, and all the personal possessions, whatever their value. The remainder of the estate is shared -
the husband/wife gets an absolute interest in half of the remainder and the other half is then divided equally between the surviving children. As for whether your father-in-law can make a Will, speak to the medical professionals for their assessment of his situation/capabilities. A solicitor will be able to advise on guardianship/power of attorney issues to help draw up a Will that is valid.
You will need to look into potential care costs if your father-in-law is detained further and power of attorney if he cannot function sufficiently to manage his finances etc
Alan 05/09/2015 at 1:02 am
My mother-in-law has secondary cancer and the outlook is not good. We are preparing for a future when she may not be with us. My father-in-law (her husband) became anxious that he could not help her and became ill to the extent that he was detained under the Mental Health Act section 3, initially for 28 days and now for 6 months. They have a house worth around £500k. We are making preparations for the future, which includes drawing up wills. Is anyone able to advise what would happen should my mother-in-law die without leaving a will in these circumstances? Ordinarily I know the house would pass fully to my father-in-law but does the detention change that? Is he able to create a will, given that he is being treated for a mental illness? There are 3 adult children. Thanks. Alan.
medicjoel93 19/07/2015 at 8:56 pm
This is totally inaccurate! This is wrong in so many ways. The difference between S2 and S3 for example are not as you have stated. Also the police can remove you from a public place to a place of safety (note: not necessarily a hospital - can be a S136 suite, hospital, police custody unit) under Section 136 of the Mental Health Act. They can keep you there for assessment for up to 72 hours, NOT 6! The police can also remove you from your own home if they have a warrant under Section 135 of the Mental Health Act. Stop giving false information!

Source: Myself (in Ambulance Service and an ex-PC), The Mental Health Act.
Angel 18/07/2015 at 12:18 am
I have a husband in a mental hospital or nursing home? not sure what it is but it is Called country side villa it is in wade NC and my husband have PTSD he was bad a one time he would punch hole in the wall or said someone is following him other than that he ok so he sign his self in the va hospital and when it was time to come out he was to proud to tell the judge that he had a wife me to pick him so Social Service step in and made him a ward of the state now he in country side villa and they wont let him come home ever he make over 3000 a mt and this mental hospital is run down and dirt poor they wont let him go home because they want to keep his check in the hospital I went to court 3 times and the judge said no I realy think they are working togather to keep his money in there facility because my husband is doing very goode he not a harm to himself or any one he is nice as nice as can be can you please tell me what I can do I try to get a lawyer but they want like 2500 for a retainer and than other 2500 once the case over I don't have that kind of money and most lawyer in that town wont take the case they said it no money in Gaurtenship cases can you help my military vet I try the Va they wont help because he retired he 57 not active duty I feel so bad for my husband he stuck in there and I cant get him he missing all his grandbabies begin born and eating good food and watchd good tv he only see black and white tv and reruns Can any one help us PLEASE!!!
Samie 09/06/2015 at 3:04 pm
Hi all
Don't really know where to start.
Firstly I'm sat here in compleat despair not knowing where to turn for help/advise.
Searching the inter net for anything that can help me, I just need help on how to help my son.

My son now 17 has been in and out of various hospitals since 2011,(4 years ) sectioned 3 times.
This latest addmittion has been since jan14 (17 months)
He's been diagnosed with ASD and emerging borderline personality disorder (not fully diagnosed as he's under 18)
It has also now been said he has depressive conduct disorder
Which I do not agree with at all, the symptoms are the complete opposite to my son,
For them to think this they have no knowledge of him at all.

This last 17 months have been so hard for me as his mom, he keeps getting to a point where everyone feels his ready to come home then they give him so many hoops to jump through it makes it seem impossible.

He then relapses and self harms again (nothing like he use to) no treatment required.
The last month he has really been struggling whit lots of differant things, mainly other peers touching him, and sexual innuendos he ha s explained on many occasion to both staff and the peers how much he can't tolerate this, yet it's still happening daily.
he has lost trust in the staff and no longer feels he can talk to them, so it's been left to me to voice.
Last Wednesday I spoke to staff about his worries also about how worried I was about him,
Told them I would speck to my son and ring on Thursday to try and put a plan forward, I rang so many times and they weren't available, spoke to my son that night he told me he couldent take much more.
I tryed again to speak to staff that night and the next day nothing the person I needed was on a course.
On the Saturday my son had taken all he could and tied a ligature luckily he stoped him self,
My whole thoughts on this are it may not have happened if staff had of been there to take the time and Liston to me.
Or even taken the time to realize how much this was affecting my son.

My son is sectioned as it is deemed to be safer for him to be there than home.
What can I do as this is not the case at all,
I feel there neglect in this whole matter has led this to happen.
If this was going on in the work place it would be classed as sexual harassment, surly my son should not have to put up with it.?

To makes this whole matter worse on Thursday whilst my son was not in his room his docking station was broken.
This was my sons birthday present from myself and his dad the month before, this was an expencive present to try and make up for the fact he was in hospital for the second birthday in a row.
I was first told by a member of staff that other staff had gone down to tell my sons to turn his music down when they got there it was broke.
Today I have been told that staff went in as they hurd a bang and it was on the floor.

Also today I have been told that they will not pay as there is no p
kat 03/06/2015 at 8:58 pm
Hi all,
BIG BIG scandal our local mental health hospital in the news papers for abuse and more so sad it was a locked unit!! Social workers and docs nurses who work in mental health please treat them like there the police and never trust them. Mental health and human rights under the mental health act LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET then FIND OUT IF YOUR LOVED ONE IS ON A SECTION what section is your friend family member on the person on section has rights their N.R. NEAREST RELATIVE does as well they have a right to take part in all CPA meetings on the ward or unit this is a care path way this will tell you how care is delivered and what treatment the cared for is having they hate any interference from family however if you want answers please attend because it will help your family to come to turns with whats going on. A section 3 cannot take place if the nearest relative refuses to give permission however social workers can remove the nearest relative if they claim they are not acting in there best interests but they would have to take you to court .All human rights solicitors are free for Tribunals they can make decisions about other issues so don`t give up you can find out where you nearest TRIBUNAL HUMAN RIGHTS SOLICITOR is from any solicitor even your Library Advice centre . Mind Mental health. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE KAT.X
Sheel 20/05/2015 at 9:58 pm
Hi, i need urgent advice please.
My sister was admitted to hospital on 29th December 2014, following the sudden death of her her husband which she was witness to. My sister has since been detained there since and a compulsory treatment order has been put in place because of her short term memory loss. We have asked if we can take her home and give her 24/7 care there. Authorities are imposing this and are now over medicating her. Her son is the named person and is of no help whatsover. Please help i need to get my sister home before she is gone completely with the medication.
Thanks in advance
kat 19/05/2015 at 1:42 pm
i forgot to mention what ever you do do not put your caredfor`s in the mental hospital called aderyn in pontypool it is a light secure unit with lovely grounds for 18-60 yrs male however, if you are very frail have heart problems and huge amount of other non mental issues then you could be in big trouble. they have no nurses other than one that calls in x1 or 2 a week if your ill in the night tough luck no one will know the difference and you end up in the morning semi comatosed then spend x2 days in a general hospitals corridor awaiting to be assessed only to be discharged too early then sent back having being pumped full of iv fluids containing huge amount of antibiotics for septic condition that would have been picked up in the correct hospital. if your 68 in very poor physical health do not except this placement it does not recognise that patients need regular reviews from their consultants. we should all name and shame these hospitals give them the reviews they deserve. kat x
kat 19/05/2015 at 1:15 pm
I have read your comments with great interest and I cried for you all. It is so sad to see family`s torn apart because of the negative rantings of social workers they record that family are making the patients or clients worse this then gives them permissions NOT to engage with you the family and friends PLEASE FIGHT THIS because your the only hope they have. I am doing just that. I am a general nurse of 42yrs reading this page just made me feel so helpless However, you can fight your corner , Its called effect self help. 1. you need to go to a advocat , carers help line, human rights solicitor, You can also have the hospital inspector go and check if the running of the hospital meets with there requirements, there are so many authorities out their that can help. I know it is overwhelming because I share some of the same issues please don`t give up and lets all stick together AND FIGHT THIS TOGETHER GO TO YOUR MP GO TO YOUR AM DONT` BE ASHAMED THAT YOUR LOVED ONE`S HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM BECAUSE YOUR NOT GOING TO GET THE VITAL SUPPORT YOU NEED, THE LONGER THERE IN HOSPITAL THE HARDER IT IS FOR THEM TO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD IN THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE PROPER CARE PLANNING MOST CAN but sometimes its easier for the authorities to leave patients in hospital simply because of cost GET A HUMAN RIGHTS SOLICITOR I have one now and she is brilliant, please get back to me if you need support. don`t let the authorities get you down, good luck to you all . kat x
AboutHumanRights Editor 03/03/2015 at 2:24 pm
@pammym66. Can you ask his family or friends? Or may social services would be able to put you in touch.
pammym66 27/02/2015 at 9:31 pm
I have just found out that a frien is in a secure mental health unit is there any way I can find out which one mainly to visit
AboutHumanRights Editor 03/03/2015 at 10:11 am
@lisa. Sorry but you really need to see a solicitor about this. You can try writing to the DWP to find out about his pension though.
Lisa 26/02/2015 at 10:30 pm
My dad passed away when going abroad he was on medication and had been sectioned. Unfortunately he was not in the right mind and had money issues out of his control. Who can give advice on how to get help on the probate as the banks want all his money but he did not even collect his pension for 5 years as he thought they was trying to find him. So they held the cash whilst locating him but now the bank and tax man wants it all, is this right???
toodles 23/02/2015 at 12:53 pm
my daughter a few months ago was attacked and got so upset she threatened according to the police to kill herself if they did not help her. While having a seizure which she sometimes has brought on by stress or high emotional state, she was handcuffed behind her back and detained under the mental health act. I found her with two officers lying on a concrete floor cuffed behind her back whilst fitting. while they just sat there waiting for an ambulance. they told me they had to cuff her as her arms were flailing around whilst fitting. Disgusting. They also threatened me with arrest if we filmed it. I complained and recently been told officers will be spoken to re filming as allowed but that they are within their rights to handcuff a person detained under mental health act even when having a seizure. She wasn't even conscious. Outrageous and it seems we have no comeback and can't get further than local resolution as usual in which their direct superior does nothing. this put her in direct danger. If anyone has any info on what else we can do i'd be grateful
AboutHumanRights Editor 16/02/2015 at 10:56 am
@loulou73. In the majority of occasions visiting is fairly flexible. Be prepared for your visits to be monitored though. Visiting for some individuals may be restricted depending on the treatment being given.
loulou73 12/02/2015 at 10:14 pm
My boyfriend is detained under section 3.are we allowed to kiss and cuddle if not is it an infringement of his human rights.
jo 17/01/2015 at 1:22 am
My brother is sectioned for threatening behaviour,due to delusions/paranoia. Water on the brain was found and a stent is now in place to drain water. He is in high security hospital. He was born with tumour on the spine, which was removed aged 3. He was normal until adulthood. He is now 42. Spine problems can cause water on the brain,which was never investigated?? However, they are blaming it on his teenage 'dabble' with drink and drugs; to cover their own arse that water on the brain was never checked for, no doubt?? My main problem though is that the place he is at do not relay things to my mother, who visits him twice a week, she has to beg for information, and he is drugged up and monged out, with nothing to say or hope for. He is supposed to be being helped, yet after 14 months, he is worse for it. We want him to make progress but they say he doesn't want to partake in anything?? That is because of the drugs i believe. We feel he is just getting more and more mentally disturbed by being there. What can we do??? Please help.
what's next 20/12/2014 at 5:52 am
Reading everyones concerns mean were all out to wonder why this world goes this way. Government included.

I'm going through a dirty divorce I'm now told. How a police officer and my spouse worked together and had me locked down. I stated my complaint to the police officer that my spouse had entered the house while I wasn't there and items were taken. I did as my lawyer told me to do. The agreement was between lawyers that I had to be notified and I would be at the home. While I made my complaint against my spouse the cop left and called my spouse. He told the cop I was paranoid and delusional. My spouse stated he was out of town and so it wasn't him. The cop and spouse are good friends. The cop came back and told me my spouse said I was delusional etc. With that I bent my arm to my chest and closed my fist. I was mad. There was a young cop there also.. My spouses friend the cop who wasn't even near me raised his arm and yelled repeatedly that I committed a felony. Again he yelled repeatedly that he would arrest me and take me in. I was so furious and angry I walked away. I did say what do I have to do call NCIS and I did smile but then I got really angry and stated what do I have to do call the FBI. I was just angry to no end. Then I found out my spouse called our son and stated to lock me down in a mental hospital or I would go to jail for assaulting a police officer. My son called the cop and the cop said he wouldn't arrest me if he locked me down as I had mental problems.
My son said he couldn't go to the judge for two days and the cop agreed he would not arrest me. The judge gave them the right to commit me. My son said it was better then jail. The cops came and arrested me and took me to a
psychiatric holding area. Kids and adults are locked down together. What those kids saw and what I saw I will never forget. I would have rather gone to jail as it was hell.
I still didn't know what the heck was going on except my family committed me. I had no cell phone so I couldn't call anyone. I just vanished.
My spouse told them I was suicidal, paranoid, and delusional. My spouse new the BAKER Law and won. Police have the right to arrest you if you are suicidal.
Three days in the holding area I was hand and ankle cuffed to a cop car and taken to a psych house. While I was there I was treated like I was crazy and suicidal. Ordered enough psych meds to knock me out like everyone else. I did not take them.
Also while I was there I had a seizure. I do have epilepsy but I was seizure free until all this happened. When my roommate went to get them and I woke up they just walked out of the room. In the chart they stated I was mumbling for several minutes plus, and no seizure seen. The MD also agreed with the RN and stated I made it up to get more seizures meds. My spouse told the kids I have OD on my seizure meds before. It took them over 24 hours to call my neurologist. Once I finally fell asleep so
Lindy 12/10/2014 at 6:30 pm
My father is 84 and frail with Parkinsons and Dementia. On Sunday evening it is alleged he attacked a female resident in the care home where he is. The night carers apparently could not deal with it and called the police who promptly handcuffed my father. He is very frail and confused and I am so angry about this. He was then sectioned without myself or my mother being informed until the next day. Is this allowable. He has now been admitted to a unit which is over 100 miles from us so we cannot visit easily and he is so upset. I just don't know who to complain to. I believe the home wanted him out and are overplaying the situation The person he allegedly attacked has no recollection of any of this and neither does my father.
morris 08/10/2014 at 7:02 pm
My brother wife how has been sectioned two times , after the latest instence when she thretened my brother with a kitchen knife she was sectioned and sent to our local nhs unit. She is asking my brother for a divorce which he will unhapply grant her wishes.The big issue is property as her name is on the mortgage deeds altho she pays no financials to the upkeep or running costs of there property . My brother was having to live in the garage until the point she was sectioned for fear of his safty ! . As far as the property is conceared her thinking is that its hers ! and my brother who pays all mortgage and bills will be leaving . He has been told today that she will be retuning to the property early next week any suggetions please help thank you .
AboutHumanRights Editor 05/08/2014 at 10:42 am
@Angie. It's not clear what information you're after here, but if your granddaughter has mental health issues, the police must ensure an 'appropriate adult' is present when she is interviewed so you will be able to keep up to date with what is happening to her via that person.
Angie 02/08/2014 at 10:01 am
my 25 year old grandaughter who has mental health issues is being prosecuted by the police what is the guidelines/procedure from a grandparent/parent prospective?
helpless 26/07/2014 at 1:39 pm
my son is in an acute ward on a section 3 he is well now and has unsupervised leave in grounds and is also allowed with me when i visit but now they are applying for funding for low secure rehab on the grounds of being a RISK how can he be allowed out on his own if he is considered a risk this is all getting out of hand, they are looking at private funded units as nhs said he did not fit criteria, the private one assessed him and said yes where others said no, they said as he is high functioning he will only need 4/6 month funding he would fly through rehab, then we received the report and they say he will need 18/24 month, this was my concern with private funded which i had expressed at the beginning of the process, can he insist on an NHS placement even if in another area, as this process is ongoing he is walking around the hospital grounds alone so how can he be a risk if they allow this, he has had no involvement in any of this just told once it has been agreed
dish 01/07/2014 at 9:32 pm
My son is being detained in a mental hospital is it against his human rights to be locked up in seclusion 24 hours a day without exercise and fresh airand then fed through a door
AboutHumanRights 05/06/2014 at 2:05 pm
Thanks for this additional information CAY :)
CAY 05/06/2014 at 9:14 am
Hi,

I am a mental health Advocate, after reading through some of these posts I am worried about how the people being detained and their families are being treated.

For your information, anybody who is sectioned under the MHA has a statutary right to speak with an Independent Mental Health Advocate (IMHA). This is somebody who can help the person to understand their rights and to exercise their rights, it is the duty of the hospital staff to inform all service users of this right. An IMHA helps people to be heard and can support them in raising any issues they may have while being treated in hospital and can also help them to access a solicitor.

The nearest relative also has rights under the Mental Health Act, you will find more information on the nearest relative rights by just googling it.

Some hospital also provide a benefit service where a benefit advisor can meet with patients and help them to understad changes to their benefits or help to apply for some benefits. It may be worth asking the hospital if this serice is available.

Hope this helps in some way
magellan 16/12/2013 at 6:58 pm
Could some-body please tell me who is responsible for my Brother who is on a section3 thank-you very much.
hismam 17/11/2013 at 2:31 am
My son is section 37/41 under mha, they have him doped up on pills he has Bern there 7 year with no diagnosis, no closer to getting out spends most of his time in seclusion for petty things
barryg Editor 14/10/2014 at 4:00 pm
@rabbit (25 Aug 2013)
You must fight in the courts. My mother went into hospital in December 2013 for a hip operation. Because she also has dementia the hospital and social services refused to let her return home to live with me, they want her to move into a Nursing Home. They have used the Mental Health Act to prevent me from taking her home. She is not being treated for her mental disorder, which means that she is being unlawfully detained. I appealed to the SheriIff Court but did not get a fair hearing, so I am now appealing to the Court of Session. I am without a solicitor, but I am determined to get justice for my mother, so that she can spend her final years at home, as she wishes.
rabbit 25/08/2013 at 6:17 am
My mother has not been home in 2 years. She came off section 2 mha August 2011. then subject to a DOLS authorisation which was not granted but they still kept her in the mental health hospital for a further 6 months. But you try and find out from the professionals why you get nothing but contradiction. In that 6 months she asked to go home but they told her she would never be going home again even though she was under no legal authority. So my advise be very careful of the authorities as they will do what they want to do. Make sure you know the ins and outs of these acts. I am still fighting for my mum.
Mrki 25/07/2013 at 10:19 pm
Hi. Some interesting posts on this thread. Can i ask anyone who was detained at Rampton Hospital during the 60's & 70's please leave a comment? I may have some interesting information. Thanks for reading..
caz 07/07/2013 at 11:10 am
my son is in rampton hospital and they are not helpful at all sometimes I wonder why they keep him he has.nt harmed any one in the public but they seem tom think he will.how can they say that if he has no evendence ov this I have.nt seen my son connor for two years they don't care about peoples familys I don't no the staff names or even his doctor my son been in places like that for 11 years its like my late dad said to me they are the forgotton children
I beleave this is very wrong they are human and have family
lost 11/05/2013 at 8:11 pm
my mum was sectioned a few weeks ago,and we spoke to her every day until weds, the last phonecall i had from her was her begging to come home cos she was missing us and most of all my dad, her phone was then rappidly taken from her and the hospital are now saying she doesnt want to talk to us as her phone has been of since,its making my dad ill they wont tell him anything he just needs to know she is ok , im worried im gonna loose both of them !!!!!
hotrod 06/05/2013 at 12:11 am
I would like to know if I have any rights as a mother to find out why my daughter is still sectioned she was sectioned when she was 17 by the courts she is now 34 I was giving no reason why shes only been allowed home once in all them years for a couple of hours she was told she could never come home I was not giving a reason why the social worker dosnt not want to know I get no ansewer from them when I ring the place my daughters at they say she dosnt want to speak to me I was told she will have to stay wheres shes at she never be able to leave .
thewall 27/03/2013 at 6:32 pm
My suggestion to all of them who have grievances pertaining to mental health services is to take legal action against the govt or the health ministry.Thats what I have been doing.I have been moving in and out of court rooms,assembly houses,collectorates and dispatching public interest litigations and memorandas.I have send them to the top most officials that I could send.Why dont you get together and do it.I did it all alone.Thats the only way they are going to hear your cries.Drag them to the court.Let them get summons and let them lose their working hours inside the court.
thewall 27/03/2013 at 6:19 pm
I was in a rehab center for one year for depression and PTSD since my family members were all dead.I was given carbamazepine and it lowered my testosterone level.Subsequently I started taking testosterone replacement therapy and I am finally masturbating successfully.The rehab center bought my wife when my penis was fully flaccid due to change in hormone level.Soon I got a divorce.I disliked being started on carbamazepine because such cases have been reported in journals.The behaviour of the staff is bad and the area is filthy.And in the bus some people tried to rub their genitals on my hand and then on my buttocks,but I asked firmly to stop such nonsense.And I reported this to the hospital.Do you think the rehab center could be involved in such incidents?My depression was situational but it got amplified due to my stay in a state where depression is endemic.I get good erections also but my life is destroyed.
carrot flan 01/03/2013 at 1:04 am
was diagnosed with schizoeffective disorder 7 years ago. spent 4 years being sectioned. then decided to take meds and am just starting to feel better.

have heard from a friend that they were moved to high security mental health unit in milton keynes that only allows you to smoke 3 times a day. having being locked up in bodmin myself and not allowed out of my room at night, i can believe this.

what human rights do we have regarding smoking - as i believe you can smoke in prison. what is the difference?
Worriedmother 10/02/2013 at 9:46 pm
My 7 year old son was admitted to a childrens Pyschiatric Assessment Unit last Thursday. I have concerns about the staff there not understanding that he has lower functioning autism than the usual children they admit which seems to be resulting in causing meltdowns in my son. Can I request that they employ a specialist to work with him who understands his needs better. Also, when he was admitted, I asked the head of the unit what the procedure would be if at any point I felt that being there wasn't conducive and I wanted to take him home, he skirted the issue and wouldn't give me a straight answer. Do I have the right, as his mother, to remove him from the unit at any time or do I now have no choice but to leave him there even if I am not happy with him being there? PLEASE HELP!!!
Hanni 05/02/2013 at 8:45 am
Hi. I live in a Crown Dependency. Here they charge people for their care in a care home when they move their under Guardianship or on leave. There is no law that specifices who should be charged for what so they make everyone pay for their care or they remain on the wards. Can this be challenged anywhere, if so where and how?
ROSA 02/02/2013 at 11:25 am
My brother is in an acute psychiatric ward and he has schizophrenia, he is wanted for questioning by the police, and I have been told by his solictor that the police can come and arrest him from the hospital, Is this right? My brother is really unwell and is not allowed to leave the hospital unescorted. The matter is a previous matter to him going into hospital and is not of a serious nature. Does he have protection? If he was even taken out of the hospital this would have a bad effect on his health.

Thanks

Rosa
ms 24/01/2013 at 2:26 pm
I want to know if I can take the mental health to court as I was sectioned in 2008 for 4 .months and I had a job,mortgage ,car payments ect and was maintaining it all up until the section as I was put on meds and I couldn't move and that was the only time I never paid my bills .I lost my house I paid 50% deposit and it was worth £160,000 until the squatters moved in with all my items and the electric and gas and everything.I had loads of plans for my home and had someone who wantedpart of my garden for 20,000 .please if there Is anyone ,if there's any chance of getting my money back .I would defintely sign half to who ever can help as I'm just so upset I haven't been sucessful and I can't keep dweling on a possibility but I know if any one can help I got all the proof of my ability to pay and every receipt letter from my property so how can they do this to me as I'm homeless no money and on benefits.I want my baby back
Mamie 19/01/2013 at 2:28 am
My son is in mental health hospital he called me at 2am upset saying he is being made to go to his bed and staff nurse locked sitting room so he was having to go to bed or sit in cold tiled floor in corridor , I phoned hospital straight away and nurse said that is the rules off all the hospital sitting room for patients are all closed at 12pm ,my sons physical health is very poorly aswell ,I reminded the nurse about this and said this was not good for my sons health for him sitting on cld floor she replied he can sit on his bed in a. Shared room, I would like to know if my son has any rights on this matter.
Vic 07/01/2013 at 5:27 pm
My son was on a hospital order under section 37. The hospital/lead practisioner had dropped this today. He is still staying at the hospital but as I understand it on a voluntary basis. What are his rights now? Can they still restrain him and adminster injected drugs? I feel he has been abused this way in the past
johnboy 27/12/2012 at 12:04 am
My daughter was admitted last week for Bi-Polar disorder, she showed a rapid improvement and was dropped from sec.2 to sec.1 after 7 days and was allowed home for 3 days over Christmas , she has returned to her normal self and is willing to take the prescribed drug to help her but i'm afraid that now she is well aware of whats going on that returning to the secure ward will undo all the good of being in her own home has done over the last 3 days, can some one quickly tell me if, under my care,can i legally discharge her when i take her back tomorrow 27/12/12 thankyou john
grumpy7 12/12/2012 at 2:21 am
can a person who is detained under section 3 of the MHA have apassport
chrismoore 11/12/2012 at 3:00 pm
Hi , Can a person with mental health problems be arrested and detained for questioning in relation to a crime ? , can and admission to an offence stand up in court if the person was not in there right frame of mind ?? any help please ??
Spect 26/11/2012 at 7:41 am
if someone has a cast on their leg, you can see immediately what is wrong with them; In our society there are those of us that require treatment for something other than broken bones or disease. it is difficult to know what to say, or do. We are often shown pictures in TV dramas of sociopaths and the mentally ill,
ceily 18/11/2012 at 8:56 am
NO!! THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FORCE FEED YOU CHICKEN!! it is a civil right to have a vegan diet...
with reference to gillard. i really feel for you. i have been in a mental hospital for 6 weeks and i know they are deceiving the law and i have even written to the speaker of the house of commons. they are playing games and using the police to do so. they believe in illness where you dont. then they can say you are ill when you dont know it. they have inferred all religions are delusional which means they force their care on you instead of allowing you to seek the love or friendship you want and need.i found that they were denying all the positive possibilities of alternative medicine. they are their own church with forced conversion units called mental hospitals. i dont know how many people are in gillards kind of situation but you are not alone. i have been passing the information around the web!! so plenty will know soon and you should get your freedom and happiness back !!!
Mo 27/07/2012 at 1:15 pm
I have a friend in hospital who is 17, annorexic and considered mentally ill. She is vegan and being told they are gong to force feed her chicken. This is a UK hospital. Are they allowed to do this?
ona 03/07/2012 at 1:19 pm
My son was injured in a road accident and had brain injury. After hospital the NHS matron contacted us and placed my son in a care home. He can understand and show by gestures that he agrees or disagrees, he can write on the board the thing he needs. he is not happy there and wants home. I am ready to take and care about him at home, but the care home does not want to let him leave. he is able to use toilet, but he is put pad and never put to toilet due to shortage of staff, he can sit up to 4 hours a day, but he is left in bed all day. He needs peg feeding, but my son prefers me to do it rather than staff. Another thing I am not happy with is that this care home encourages patients smoking- the smoking room is straight in the middle of the ward and patients are crowding there and pleading the staff for cigaretts, often the dorr is opened and smell is around. there are people smoking even in the garden. My son used to smoke before the accident, he had not smoked for a year since the accident, but this environment winds him up, he becomes agitated when I refuse him to give cigarettes.
ham 25/06/2012 at 3:07 pm
my brother in law has been sectioned for 6 months, does he have to notify any authorities about the benefits he gets at the moment, and will he loose these benefits . i think he gets disabled living allowance , and income support.
jo 23/06/2012 at 5:26 pm
i am a mental health patiet informal
they are saying i am not good at crossing the road and are trying to section me until i get better at crossing
i am 26 years old and choose not to cross at the crossing
i am slow but feel i am as safe as the next person
surely this is not what the mental health act is for
i was treated for anxiety and depression and have not been sectioned it was thought i had capacity and knowledge about my condition following the birth ofd my daughter two months ago i asked for help and here i am!
sparky 11/06/2012 at 11:39 pm
I'm writing to ask advice for my brother who has been sectioned under sec 3 of the mental health act. He has been in several secure units and has had a history of mental health issues starting with depression and mental breakdowns moving into mood swings and bi polar disorders.

He is currently in a secure unit and has been since 11 april 2012 and he was receiving D.L.A. and has a flat paid for by the council.

Now because he's been in this secure unit since april the council are threatening to stop paying his rent by 28-6-12 which would mean he would be evicted thus homeless and would have to find a new flat after his release.

So my question is? Is there any help or funding or grants to hlp with this issue as the nottingham council say that this is an un-herd of case and have no idea what to do regarding the issue.

Basically there being useless and not really looking into the problem it's ok for them to pay 7 months for criminally convicted people but they only pay 11 weeks if your mentally convicted!

Now surely that can't be right can it?

So any help and advice will help me and my family greatly thanks in advance pete.
sm157 01/06/2012 at 8:12 am
I really feel for those of you who have a detained relative they have no contact with. I had the same problem with my brother and for many years he wanted no contact with family..SO MHT SAID...and then one day i recieved a phonecall from him out of the blue. My concern is this. With so little input from family .. who is taking care of the said individuals needs? its certainly not the doctors or the frontline staff..my brother has been seriously mistreated in the past, i think these places are not fit for rats let alone members of our family ..also i agree with the other poster who said its a business, it definately is, the MH system in this country is conviently a revolving door for the majority, once in, its hard to get out but im pleased to say, my brother has had some quality of life since my input...and its an observation but family contact seems like something which is not encouraged once a service user states in a moment or anger/delirium that they dont want contact with family...it all too easy for the staff to then 'say and do as they please' whilst theres no family involvement..and then have the cheek to say to people like me 'oh its very good you are so involved with your brothers care, many families arent' when actually the whole time, they are the ones encouraging no contact and treating your relative however suits them....i cant stress enough how important your input is.......whilst their mistreating your relative and you are none the wiser who do you think lays there at night and thinks to themselves, i cant trust anyone,,not even my family' ..thats right, your relative......search the electoral roll, ring your local bed placement office, locate your relative and give them the choice what to do....dont be put off by carers, i did the same and my brother could never thank me enough...if i hadnt of traced him, turned up, sneeked in the unit and faced my brother thru a bathroom door to give him an option, he would never of picked up that phone and contacted me...this demonstrated to him i really do care and we've never looked back since...he thanks me till this very day for contacting him and has never been better. People with mental health issues are among the most vulnerable in society and they need their families the most especially if they are ever going to have some sort of recovery
tina 18/05/2012 at 3:23 pm
i am sure my son is suffering from sociopathic disorder he is twenty three from speaking to my doctor and doing some research i would like to have him assesed,but i cannot get him to agree any suggestions.
sm157 Editor 01/06/2012 at 8:27 am
@ted .... its not the lack of hot/cold water, windows and lack of excercise you should concern yourself with, its the use of antipsychotic drugs like acuphase which have been administered to my brother for silly things, play fighting with other consenting bored young males, throwing bits of paper repeatly in a paper bin and not stopping when asked...my brother did these things and was acuphased. This drug is awful and i feel, in most cases, unlawfully administered. It completely shuts down the patient and causes them to curl up in a ball, foam at the mouth and makes their eyes roll and their bodies ridgid..it basically, shuts down the brain and body..i can see how its a useful drug if used correctly, i.e, voice hearing dellusions are causing someone so much distress that they might/could use it to give the patient a break from their symptoms but as mentioned above..alot of the time its unwarrented..my brother has been aquphased many times and for stupid reasons...its a shame theyd rather use funding to line the pockets of consultants rather than spend it on improving care plans and using the dosh to take patients out on escorted leave etc or for activities...it seems its much more 'cost effective' for them to just aquphase bored young individuals.
ted 01/10/2011 at 9:37 pm
how long is a patient allowed to be kept in seclusion without exercise or outdoor activities? is it against human basic rights not to have access to open windows in their room and hot and cold running water?
whydidthishappen? 28/09/2011 at 11:43 am
Hi,
I have recently been detained under the MH act that I feel is wrong. A few years ago I suffered grade 3 pre cancer and I was feeling tired, my throat lumpy, under arm lumpy, extreme pain in my back and I asked if I could have a smear test. I was turned away 5 x because they said they have a screening programme and I had to wait four months. I explained that I had grade 3 before and I was concerned, I said that diabetics and people with heart disease can have piece of mind by visitng a chemist or by going to their doctors for test why not for cancer? I cried and was in severe pain in the back and the doctor said it was all in my head and sectioned me. I got out a week earlier than planned as I did not make a fuss, I don't need Quentiapine medication and throw this down the sink each night and have been doing so for months, yet pay for the meds to keep the GP's happy.

I can not understand why this has happened to me in the first place and why does no one listen to patients? I am still non the wiser if I have my cancerous cells back.

I have complained to the ombudsman, yet feel that this is a total minefield and they just come back with other names and other addresses of people to contact, to complain to.

I think there is a lot of people out there getting diagnosed as having an MH problem for no reason, to me its big business and maybe they should be investing more in cancer screening in chemists, if they cannot be bothered to look after people who have had severe pre cancer in the past.

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mentalhealthcop 20/09/2011 at 9:16 pm
Answer to question by 'none' - I'm a police inspector and a specialist in mental health issues for the police.

The answer to your question is 'YES', they can be. Whether they will be or not, will depend and each case turns on their merits. It should depend on a balance of many compex factors: how serious is the assault, what is the mental condition of the patient, what is their legal status (I appreciate you've provided this); what is their background in terms of any previous violent behaviour, either in the form of criminal convictions, or previous arrests for violence which were 'diverted' into the MH system as well as any previous potentially unreported behaviour; what is the opinion of the victim of the crime (whether it's a member of NHS staff or another patient) and what is the opinion of hte Responsible Clinician in charge of the care of a patient.

Once all that is known, it is a question of weighing to a conclusion - in general, the more serious the offence, the more 'previous' a patient may have, the more information available that supports a view that depsite their mental illness the patient had sufficient awareness of their actions and the consequences of them, the more likely a prosecution. Obviously, the opposite is true regarding more minor offences, by people without a violent background where MH may well impair the congnition to a degree which impaired their judgement - perhaps because of florid psychosis or the effects of (strong) medication.

It's then a question of balancing the public interest - the Code for Crown Prosecutors does highlight that serious mental illness is a factor against a prosecution. But it also provides examples of factors that may push back against such a presumption and which would mean a prosecution is both possible and desiberable.

It should be borne in mind that only a criminal court can impose an order under Part III of the Mental Health Act (eg, s37 or s37/41) and if it is felt by police / clincians that the best way to balance a patient's need for care and treatment, with the security of the public (which would include NHS staff) then a prosecution may be the only way to achieve this outcome. (There is a 'criminalisation' argument about whether this is the right or wrong way to structure our law, but it is correct as of 2011.)

Hope that helps because it is a complex decision as to whether to do it or not.
none 31/08/2011 at 1:19 pm
Can a patient detained under section 3 of the mental health act 1983 and who assults another person at the hospital where they are being detained, be arrested and charged by the police for the assault they are alleged to have commited?

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